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inarduisfidelis ([personal profile] inarduisfidelis) wrote2011-03-04 09:30 pm
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Here Be Dragons - ATTENTION SHERLOCK FANDOM.

I cannot hold my peace any longer about this. I've seen a good lot of fandom drama and I'm fine with it as long as it all stays on the internet and the internet alone, but this particular thing - this particular person has gone way beyond everybody's comfort zone and caused drama in many people's REAL lives.

It's time to get the word out so's you all know what you're letting yourselves in for. So here goes:

This post is about [livejournal.com profile] rakspatel and her comm, Mycrofting. It's long and rather ranty, so, long story short:

DO NOT ENGAGE.

I mean it. This person has caused so many people so much grief it's not even funny. I'm not badmouthing anyone, I am giving you facts. I have been personally involved in all this drama rather heavily and I simply do not want to keep my mouth shut any longer. People need to be aware of these things.

Long story long:

Raks is new to fandom and to the internet in general so she has no idea about netiquette. She made no great effort to learn either, in all the time she was a member of the Baker Street Supper Club forum (one of yours truly's hangouts, which is how our paths crossed).

She has no idea what fandom is all about and, to mine (and several others') perception is trying to use it as a means to "change careers". Possibly because she's had her hours reduced at her job for spending all her work time on the fan sites (we're talking about stuff like the IT department banning her from accessing tumblr, for example).

She was banned from the BSSC for several reasons including:

- harrassment of other BSSC members via email, text and phone. For example, she called someone at seven in the morning over a forum post that had been moved.

- failure to abide by the forum rules - example: she hijacked a thread about asexuality to post about something completely unrelated to that in a very aggressive manner

- misrepresenting the BSSC in front of actors and other official people

She will tell you that all this is completely untrue and that the one reason she got banned is because she doesn't like slash. That's bollocks. There are many reasons for her ban, see above. Also, she is a massive bigot - she will say she considers slash disrespectful to the Canon but as soon as it's fic or art done by her favourite people she's all over it.

Here are a few incidents to give you a bit of a picture.

ETA
She went to the stage door at the NT on the third night of Frankenstein. Look at the way that this is phrased; what I'm saying is that she went to the stage door to get Mr Cumberbatch's picture before she had even seen the play.

He didn't want his picture taken that night at all and she was among those who kept badgering him for a photo.
She was bragging she was going to post that picture a few days later - after he had said at the stage door that night he didn't want the photos posted on the internet.

[livejournal.com profile] gozadreams, who witenessed the situation firsthand, describes it as follows:

"My friends and I saw the production on its 3rd preview. We were at the stage door (which was small) that night. Benedict came out looking exhausted (hardly "fresh as a daisy"). We were all delighted that he came out because its clear that neither Naomie Harris or Jonny Lee Miller are stage dooring at all and Benedict isn't actually leaving by the stage door and is only coming out to sign. Making him the loveliest person ever.

We very politely asked for a photo (because don't ask don't get) - he very very very politely said no as he was knackered. We respected that and put our cameras away. We were the ONLY ones that did. And we stood and watched teeth gritted as others raced up and talked him into photos he didn't want to do while he backed towards the door trying to escape. The subject of your post didn't ask him for a photo.
What she did do was take about a billion and one flash photos of him an inch away from his nose until even my friend who is so laid back she is virtually horizontal was coming up with a few choice suggestions for what she could do with her camera. It was disquieting to watch but I put it down to over excitement. I've seen it before - new to fandom, new to meeting actors can result in really socially awkward OTT behaviour with the actors. I was less impressed when she admitted that she hadn't been at the show - I'm always wary of people who "happen" to be at stage doors when they haven't seen the production that evening. I understand people coming back if they were there the previous night and the actors didn't come out but that wasn't the case here."
End of ETA

She has been stalking Mark Gatiss and Benedict Cumberbatch at the stage door and "interacting" (if you can call it that) with them in a manner that is beyond description - not making eye contact, shoving stuff in their faces to sign, being passive-aggressive etc.

She has caused the admins in the forum a great deal of pain both on the internet and in RL and it's time people became aware of this. She is delusional and trying to use fandom for her own personal goals - trying to land "official" interviews with the cast and crew, trying to get "official" articles written and published. She even wants to show her fansite to the BBC once it launches. People have been trying to explain to her that this is the sort of thing that, for copyright (and a myriad other) reasons should not be done, but I'm not sure she is actually seeing sense.

So please, please give her and her comm a nice wide berth, do not post your content there, do not engage. She is a delusional person who cannot draw a line between fact and fiction. I'm serious - she cannot draw a line between internet life and real life at all, she cannot distinguish between an actor and his character(s) and she cannot distinguish between fictional characters and real people on any level. This has caused, and continues to cause, a large number of people a great deal of pain.

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] snugglemuffin89 on Raks: Late-night calls and crossposting without crediting

[livejournal.com profile] killerweasel linked to their bit of experience with her.
End of ETA

She possibly needs help, but one thing she definitely does not need is enabling.

Feel free to spread the word, but if you do, please link back and drop me a line so I know who else is boosting the signal.
Thank you.

ETA: LINKS

[livejournal.com profile] lei_che_sogna has boosted the signal at her journal and linked. Thanks!

baker-street on tumblr has boosted and linked. Thank you

[livejournal.com profile] turkfox has signal boosted and added a few extra notes of their own on their journal. Thanks!

[livejournal.com profile] orange_pips explains why [livejournal.com profile] rakspatel was banned from the BSSC forum over here.

The signal was anonymously boosted at the kink meme. Whoever you are, anon, thank you very much!

[livejournal.com profile] sunnyringo has done a writeup of the crazy that's been going down on [livejournal.com profile] mycrofting for the last couple of weeks over here - with screencaps.

ETA April 11, 2011 Her story has made it to wank_report and FandomWank, so you can find all the information on what she's been up to over there. Suffice it to say that after reading that she gave Benedict Cumberbatch one of the invites to her Frankenstein closing night party, the text in the icon on this post reflects how much I've had of all this.

ETA April 16, 2011: [livejournal.com profile] soophelia has created a Very Useful Post as a warning to the Sherlock Holmes fandom at large (ie Holmes fandom outside the following of Sherlock) - important because [livejournal.com profile] rakspatel is involved with the Undershaw Preservation Trust and the Sherlock Holmes Society of London. Thank you.

[livejournal.com profile] rakspatel has been banned from [livejournal.com profile] mycrofting and [livejournal.com profile] cumberbatchfans now. [livejournal.com profile] mycrofting has three new mods and seems to be shaping up nicely as a friendly place for Sherlock fen to chat. [livejournal.com profile] ledasdaughter has created [livejournal.com profile] the_sign_of_fun as a reaction to the [livejournal.com profile] mycrofting drama as well, so I wish them all all the best.

ETA April 21, 2011

You guys, YOU GUYS: Johnny Lee Miller yelled at her on Tuesday night (link goes through to more detailed report) because she shoved one of her "Posh invites" in his face and he told her in so many words how ridiculously offensive to him and the rest of the cast it was. Well done JLM. Also, it would appear that those who need to know have been informed.


ETA April 29, 2011

She's now selling tickets to Frankenstein illegally on eBay

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that would be me.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
This is probably what infuriates me most; that now wherever I go in London I'll have to check whether this person will be in the same place. Ugh. Underground meetup sounds like a good idea. Possibly at the British Museum station.

[identity profile] mariemjs.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
OMG ITS YOU!! *flails*

Yes that was me you talked to!
The coincidence is unbelievable :D

I have yet to write my BSSC article, working on it tomorrow morning and was going to send you an email as well to say I hadn't forgotten you!!

But yeah, I agree with everything you said... I'm finally getting out of that sphere of negativiy she brought to my life and I'm still angry I let it affect me that much, but dealing with her antics was a 24/7 job, it was excruciating. And I tried so hard to understand her, and explain to her, so much energy wasted for nothing. Now she's completely convinced I have destroyed her reputation somehow and I'm behind some kind of giant vendetta against her. I guess she'll be disappointed to find out many people decided for themselves long before I even made a strong statement against her. I said ONCE loud enough what I thought of all this, three weeks ago, but by then, things were already in motion with other people who couldn't stand her attitude.

Then again, I guess it's more satisfying for her to think I'm the evil mastermind behind all this. I think it's funny though considering I'm the only one who tried so very hard to give her the benefit of the doubt... We're talking hours and hours of face to face conversation explaining the basis of "how to behave on the internet when you're in a fandom" and other things. Never worked.

So now I just lol in my corner and enjoy my fandom with the right people :) Good times!

[identity profile] shrewreader.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
*confused* for screencapping?? All it took was 'save as..'

OTOH, the rant, well, that required a sentient pearwood soapbox to dance 1st man, a person to be its partner, and then three other couples, and it's a square set, and those double-crossover reels of four are really messy.... :)

[identity profile] alethea-dot.livejournal.com 2011-03-07 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no! I have just replied to the meet up for next Sat about possibly coming. I wondered where there wasn't much interest when there had been quite a lot initially. Now I probably know why. Guess I won't be going to that then.

Thanks for the heads up- you seem pretty sensible about this sort of thing and from what I've seen at shwatchalongs I trust your opinion (not that RL has let me join in much recently). Mind you, this kind of thing makes me think it's probably best to sit back and enjoy fandom from afar but not engage too deeply! It's a shame as I would love to enjoy a Sherlock watchalong in person with some other fans someday but probably not going to happen.

[identity profile] shoedog.livejournal.com 2011-03-09 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi! Came here from the link at the discussion/chatter post on the kinkmeme.

I read a lot in this fandom but don't post much. First took notice of this person on this post at [livejournal.com profile] cumberbatchfans (http://community.livejournal.com/cumberbatchfans/144974.html)

The furious back and forth debate on stage door etiquette, said person "speaking for all fans!" (eek.) and the rampant backpedaling on her part when caught in a falsehood or something that made her sound in the wrong alerted me to a gut "Oh-uh. Worms eating the brain of poster. Stay away." feeling.

Matter of fact I stay away from [livejournal.com profile] cumberbatchfans because of this poster's omnipresence and, quite frankly, creepy posts.

Heaps of admiration to you for taking a stand, especially the kind that is frequently unrewarding and involves a frightening loose cannon.

Please post information if there is any unpleasant repercussions and, if so, anyway you think folks could assist you.

Having the courage to speak up does not mean you should be hung out, left out to dry.


[identity profile] the-nightjar.livejournal.com 2011-03-09 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
She's trampling all over cumberbatchfans now. For my part,not wishing to turn it into a public slanging match I've walked away. It's clear that she'll keep going until she gets the last word *headdesk*

[identity profile] shoedog.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
Hi again. Looked at my comment again and have no idea why it posted unscreened, I had noticed there was no date at the heading when I posted and the response to pushing 'post comment' button just read 'COMMENT POSTED.'

Whereas it usually goes back to the site and shows your comment right there.

This has happened to me twice in the past month. Haven't a clue why. If anyone knows, feel free to chime in.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
It posted screened. YOu yourself can always see your own comments, even when they are screened.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
What you describe is what happens if you post screened comments. LJ used to tell people that their comment had been screened, but for some reason it doesn't anymore, so all you get is this cryptic message that can be confusing for people. I've unscreened your other comment now.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. Thanks for your trust and support.

[identity profile] gozadreams.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I sort of feel I should clear up one of your ETAs - not that I have a real desire to be involved in this because I don't - but I do so hate chinese whispers.

My friends and I saw the production on its 3rd preview. We were at the stage door (which was small) that night. Benedict came out looking exhausted (hardly "fresh as a daisy"). We were all delighted that he came out because its clear that neither Naomie Harris or Jonny Lee Miller are stage dooring at all and Benedict isn't actually leaving by the stage door and is only coming out to sign. Making him the loveliest person ever.

We very politely asked for a photo (because don't ask don't get) - he very very very politely said no as he was knackered. We respected that and put our cameras away. We were the ONLY ones that did. And we stood and watched teeth gritted as others raced up and talked him into photos he didn't want to do while he backed towards the door trying to escape. The subject of your post didn't ask him for a photo.
What she did do was take about a billion and one flash photos of him an inch away from his nose until even my friend who is so laid back she is virtually horizontal was coming up with a few choice suggestions for what she could do with her camera. It was disquieting to watch but I put it down to over excitement. I've seen it before - new to fandom, new to meeting actors can result in really socially awkward OTT behaviour with the actors. I was less impressed when she admitted that she hadn't been at the show - I'm always wary of people who "happen" to be at stage doors when they haven't seen the production that evening. I understand people coming back if they were there the previous night and the actors didn't come out but that wasn't the case here.

The one thing I will say is that you should never allow one person to prevent you doing anything in fandom. If you want to organise London meets, Sherlock Holmes walks do it. You cannot allow your enjoyment of fandom and the marvellous people in it to be affected by one individual.

[identity profile] orange-pips.livejournal.com 2011-03-10 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think the 'speaking for all fans' justification is a standard fandom alarm bell. No-one has that privilege. Fans may share a love for a particular show / film / band whatever but more often than not are very different people otherwise. She certainly doesn't speak for me but then I know that her argument, which she's used in emails that found their way to me, is that members of the Supper Club aren't real fans because we didn't go on the last Sherlock Holmes walk? Excuse me? The Supper Club has a very international membership and those of us who do live in London have jobs. Unlike her we're not willing to go part time at work to dedicate more time to our fandom. o.0

[identity profile] orange-pips.livejournal.com 2011-03-11 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I did a post yesterday afternoon about Mark's new show, The Crimson Petal and the White. An hour later the same thing was up on her comm. Stealing content and ideas is par for the course on the internet but she's taken the content from the BBC website for the series and just copied and pasted it without quoting her source or making it clear that she didn't write it.

I thought she was meant to write for a living? Surely that includes knowing the rules about how to cite, quote or otherwise reference your sources.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-11 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe for a second that she writes for a living. Someone who does that would know about referenceing, but on a more basic level, also about proper punctuation and how overusing capslock and exclamation marks makes you look (and sound) like an eight-year-old.

[identity profile] the-nightjar.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
She's a civil servant as far as I know. She controls the UK's supply of exclamation marks.

[identity profile] mariemjs.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for your message, it's quite a good thing to have this explained by people who witnessed it first hand (I had heard about this from someone else as well).

I was there on the first preview night, Benedict played the Creature and was exhausted, he came out in loose clothes and crazy hair just for us, and even if he said yes to photos that's when he insisted on not posting them all over the internet.
Which prompted me to quickly post about it on Cumberbatchfans, kind of creating a general rule of "do not post" and has been so far quite a success, considering how few pictures have popped up on the internet in the last month. I don't expect people to follow it, and I'm not there to judge, but it has certainly warned the fans with good common sense not to bother him too much about pictures. Especially on nights when he plays the Creature.

I saw the play on Thursday and stage doored for the second time in the run, it was a peaceful affair, and people were very calm and lovely. I saw the play again on Friday, as it was the Young Patrons event of the NT (which I'm part of) and barely stopped at the stage door, just to say good bye to a group of german friends who had travelled to come and see the show. I had no intention of staying around as I thought it was inappropriate, considering I'd been there the day before and it was "done". When I was leaving quickly before any actors would come out, Raks appeared out of nowhere to stage door, and with that timing, the only probable explanation was that she was at the door, again, because she was around and because she could.
I was genuinely baffled.
I've seen Frankenstein 5 times, yet I did not stage door everytime I went to see it, just because I think it's awkward. I love my London theater, I indulge in seeing things I like many times if I want to, I stage door once maybe twice everything I see (if the play is good) and that's no secret to anyone who knows me, but stage dooring the shit out of it constantly is just to bizarre.
And I certainly don't stage door outside of seeing a play either.

So yeah, I'm mostly extremly uncomfortable with that behavior, these guys don't owe us anything, giving time at the stage door for the fans is lovely but not obligatory, which is also why I completely understand Johnny's absence at the stage door as well, I heard he's not too comfortable with this, and it's fair enough, we're just strangers, happy enthusiastic strangers yes, but still strangers. Nothing else. You can have David Suchet who will ask for fans to queue at the stage door and will meet them ONE BY ONE in the theater, or you can have Naomie Harris who will never show her face at the door, and it's all fine. Again, they don't owe use anything at all.

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That would explain rather a lot.

[identity profile] gozadreams.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I have zero problem with people stage dooring when they've seen the show whether that be once or 100 times. Noone has a right to see anyone at the stage door but if you've spent your money on a ticket and want to pop around and say hi to the actors afterwards then as long as you're respectful and undemanding thats fine and dandy. I don't even have a problem with people stage dooring once if they haven't seen the play that day but couldn't catch the actors the last time around. But repeatedly stage dooring when you haven't seen the show is generally considered very odd behaviour although I am apparently now being accused by her of discouraging people from visiting the National as I've suggested that stage dooring when you haven't seen the play isn't tremendously good etiquette.

Yes I was there at that Thursday stage door too (having seen the play obviously)- it was a very quiet and polite crowd.

Jonny I'm aware from talking to some of his fans who have been following him for years isn't too keen on stage dooring which is fine. (Although the subject of this post is currently encouraging people to wait in the cold for him although his appearances are rare indeed). As you said noone owes anyone anything. But its a little disconcerting that gentle suggestions about stage door etiquette are being taken as people "speaking on behalf of the National and the actors".

The photo issue is a slight digression. I'm not completely on board with the "don't post" rule not because I would want to post any pics of him because I wouldn't but because a fair number of younger fans who have had photos with him and then posted them on their twitters/tumblrs have been attacked by some of his fans for something that he only said on the opening weekend. but as I said - I digress. But I've not seen anyone behave as she did taking millions of flash pics when he'd just said he was exhausted and didn't want photos.
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[identity profile] smittenfancy.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Damn, I wish I had known about this thread before I responded to her meet-up post.

Ah well, live and learn. Thank you for the signal. Let us hope this is an isolated headcase and more don't spring up from the ether.

[identity profile] tokyo-pt.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello dear, it was me who had the lovely stage door experience and wrote about it. (Thank your for our comments.)

However, before having that nice chat with Benedict, me and my sister were also witness to her disgusting behaviour.

And I'll let you know the other side of that conversation between me and raks. Although she sounded pretty strict, she sent the pictures easily enough, and they are just regular stage door pictures of a day when Benedict came outside already kitted out in his biker leathers. Funny thing is that because he's wearing a high-visibility jacket and she had her flash on, the pictures are rubish. LOL Our interaction was friendly enough and that was it.

Her recent posts and comments regarding day-ticketing, however really rubbed me the wrong way, enough for me to make a small post on my LJ complaining of crazies in the comms. Thankfully morelindo was kind enough to send me a heads up. And I totally suport her advice: do not engage (thrusters or otherwise). Sorry, trekkie here. :)

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
S'ok, I'm glad you came here and commented. And yes, here's to hoping.
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[identity profile] smittenfancy.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you got the word out. Though with her latest postings at [livejournal.com profile] cumberbatchfans this week, I think she's doing a marvelous job of showing herself for who she truly is.

*sigh*

[identity profile] morelindo.livejournal.com 2011-03-18 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.
And yeah, agreed.

[identity profile] turkfox.livejournal.com 2011-03-19 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Her fail this evening (someone basically insulting her, thinly veiled - and her replying to suggest that described the person who posted it) made me lol so hard. She said something similar to me when she tried to force me to take my post about her down - the whole "is that really the impression you want to give of yourself?" crap.

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